tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post5565983251666122149..comments2023-10-24T08:33:10.354-04:00Comments on Reformed Leftist (& Friends): Black Students, Poor ChoicesPaul Huehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-56079010841988193102007-02-21T10:45:00.000-05:002007-02-21T10:45:00.000-05:00http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?typ...http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2007-02-21T105933Z_01_N20170767_RTRUKOC_0_US-HIP-HOP-DOCUMENTARY.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1<BR/><BR/>Even students at HBCUs say that they feel pressure to behave like idiots.Paul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-17322567043335270302007-02-20T11:57:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:57:00.000-05:00That's the definition of remedial; they were worri...That's the definition of remedial; they were worried about not enough A's and too many C's. They took action reversed the situation.Paul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-25629643341924875082007-02-20T11:50:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:50:00.000-05:00FROM THE ARTICLE:"As they clicked off agenda items...FROM THE ARTICLE:<BR/><BR/>"As they clicked off agenda items, they passed around spreadsheets that plotted their sons' academic progress. They noted that the number of A's the boys earned rose from 30 in the spring to 37 in the fall, while the C's decreased from 10 to three."<BR/><BR/>This is hardly "remedial" Hue.<BR/><BR/>These were already high achieveing kids who've only gotten stronger.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-80018764536192584892007-02-20T11:18:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:18:00.000-05:00Read the article again. The quoted parents are bla...Read the article again. The quoted parents are black, and they are *NOT* responding to the *POSSIBILITY* of under achievement, but to the occurrence of it. They did not form their group as a preventative, but rather as remedial action. Did you read that the parent revealed the before and after stats for high and low grades? Just one example from the article of black parents worrying about actual Paul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-51604767348336725952007-02-20T11:17:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:17:00.000-05:00IT IS NOT A STEREOTYPE but an accurate description...IT IS NOT A STEREOTYPE but an accurate description of the kids in my neighborhood.<BR/><BR/>A STEREOTYPE is your description of black children as typically being anti-academic, lazy and unmotivated.<BR/><BR/>I explained this to you before.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-88457476381795103692007-02-20T11:10:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:10:00.000-05:00"Are the black parents in this article lying? Or a..."Are the black parents in this article lying? Or are they invented fictions of the author?"<BR/><BR/>I didn't see where the parents said their children were underperforming.<BR/><BR/>The creation of the group was a preventative measure against underperformance.<BR/><BR/>The same reason why I have a math tutor come in every Saturday morning for my 10 year old.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-8635556828826443802007-02-20T11:05:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:05:00.000-05:00Steve: You have created a STEREOTYPE of the black ...Steve: You have created a STEREOTYPE of the black kids at your school. They are very studious, well-mannered, and respond positively to structured authority. This is an accurate stereotype, but a stereotype none-the-less.Paul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-61626702501329429472007-02-20T11:01:00.000-05:002007-02-20T11:01:00.000-05:00Steve: I don't understand your rail against "stere...Steve: I don't understand your rail against "stereotypes". The person introducing this concept into the discussion is offering it as a reason for why black students in this situation are under-achieving with respect to members of other groups. You can hate stereotyping all that you want (accurate stereotyping, though, warrants no hatred), and you can even extract it from this discussion, but thatPaul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-38851825849876141362007-02-20T10:58:00.000-05:002007-02-20T10:58:00.000-05:00Steve: My life experience matches yours. I have al...Steve: My life experience matches yours. I have also seen that whites, blacks, and Asians who make the same choices receive the same success. I have been in many situations where all the black folks exhibited such behavior, and all were very successful. In my corporate experiences for sure, although blacks comprise a small fraction, they work just as hard on average as any other group, and Paul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-50800612387488787492007-02-20T10:53:00.000-05:002007-02-20T10:53:00.000-05:00From the article:"Middle-class African Americans a...From the article:<BR/><BR/>"Middle-class African Americans are still very influenced by the stereotypes that black kids are not academically oriented," said Pedro A. Noguera, a professor of sociology at New York University who studies achievement gaps."<BR/><BR/>It's a STEREOTYPE PAUL.<BR/><BR/>The black children at my son's school which is 40% black 40% white, 10% Asian, 10% hispanic, are doing uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-78125834561941239732007-02-20T10:46:00.000-05:002007-02-20T10:46:00.000-05:00Every place I've ever been in my life....high scho...Every place I've ever been in my life....<BR/><BR/>high school, college, military, government, corporate America....<BR/><BR/>when everyone starts from the same place blacks always do as well if not better than whites.uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-68753213722591743792007-02-20T10:42:00.000-05:002007-02-20T10:42:00.000-05:00I don't know why you don't see this. Maybe the bla...I don't know why you don't see this. Maybe the black parents in this article are lying, deluded, or invented by evil racist reporters and editors. I see this phenomenon, though, in our Ben Carson Scholars program (100% black kids, about half from affluent "jack and jill" parents), and amongst my many affluent friends who are black. I don't know many honkies, so I don't know from personal Paul Huehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01276182482853030605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16691733.post-35276054277357989022007-02-20T10:27:00.000-05:002007-02-20T10:27:00.000-05:00How come I never see this Paul?Why are most of the...How come I never see this Paul?<BR/><BR/>Why are most of the children in my neighborhood or my friends children trying their best, striving for excellence (at their parent's insistence).<BR/><BR/>Most parents, like my wife and i, are paying for weekend tutors so our children will be ahead of the curve.<BR/><BR/>This is white media racism at it's ugliest.<BR/><BR/>Attempting to smear even the uptownsetevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09916602253506986040noreply@blogger.com