2005-10-15
“The constitution is a sign of civilization”...
...Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari said after casting his ballot. “This constitution has come after heavy sacrifices. It is a new birth.” Indeed...
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Civilization existed in Iraq for centuries before the United States was even a concept. The illegal imperialist attack on one of the world's oldest civilizations is a tragedy of epic proportions.
civilization |ˌsivələˈzā sh ən| noun. the stage of human social development and organization that is considered most advanced.
I agree, Nadir, that there certainly existed a time when Iraqis organized themselves as a civilization, and that at that time the people in Europe did not... and neither did then most of the peoples then in the Americas. But in the past hundred years or so has the reverse has been the case. Europeans did not finally organize themselves into civilizations without painful influences from outside; I sure hope that Iraq's current painful influence from outside contributes to them organizing themselves again into a civilization.
Iraq has always been a civilization even before it was called Iraq. Your Eurocentric attitudes are the same ones that would call the city of Timbuktu, once the center of learning for the known world, a backward "village" or primatives.
Let me give you a news flash:
EUROPEANS DID NOT BRING CIVILIZATION TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Another newsflash Nadir, for *you*: you are killing yet another straw man. Nobody on this list believes that crackers brought civilization to the world; nobody has expressed a statement that could be properly interpretted this way. My cohorts on this list know that Iraq had civilization before any crackers did. I clearly stated that in the comment to which you replied with a nice fat straw man.
Iraqis, though, did not have a civilization in 2001. The efforts of the US military have made it possible now, according to the president there, for them to create one, though many people there violently oppose the idea of civilization.
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