2005-10-03

Islamist way or no way

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,16801982,00.html

IT'S not just the environmentalists who think globally and act locally. The jihadi who murdered Newcastle woman Jennifer Williamson, Perth teenager Brendan Fitzgerald and a couple of dozen more Australians, Indonesians, Japanese and others had certain things in common with the July 7 London Tube killers... That's why they blew up Bali in 2002, and last weekend, and why they'll keep blowing it up. It's not about Bush or Blair or Iraq or Palestine. It's about a world where everything other than Islamism lies inruins.

9 comments:

Nadir said...

This guy shows his obvious Judeo-Christian bias by stating "it's the first of those symbols (the Islamic crescent) that has a problem with coexistence." He refuses to note that extremism exists all over this planet regardless of religious affiliation.

The fact is that Christians believe that they are God's chosen people, and they have no problem bombing the bejeezus out of non-Christians or of denying basic human rights to non-Christians. The reason so much of the world is Christian (and Islamic, for that matter) is because of the superiority factor in monotheist religions.

When a people believes not only that "our" god is better than "your" god, but that "our" God is the only god and your god doesn't exist, we have a problem. This means that anyone who is not a member of their club is a lesser human being and is condemned to eternal damnation unless they come over to our side. This is true of Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

In fact, Jews are so exclusive that for the most part you can only become a member of their faith by birth or marriage! "We are God's chosen people and everyone else in the world is less important than we are. Therefore we can remove these people from their land and bulldoze their homes with impunity. We have a mandate to take back our holy land. It doesn't matter that it is the Islamic holy land too." It doesn't matter that these people worship THE SAME GOD!!

The conflicts between Muslims and others throughout the world have more to do with local politics than with religion. This is true of all the conflicts mentioned.

One must wonder why he doesn't mention that the majority of terrorism in the world takes place in Latin America where both assailants and victims are all Catholic. I guess it is because terrorism is so common in Latin America that it doesn't make the world news as often.

When you have so-called Christians like Ann Coulter calling for the conversion of everyone in Iraq, or so-called Christian ministers like Pat Robertson calling for the assassinations of democratically elected world leaders, it is obvious that the problem goes beyond one religion. The fundamental difference: extremist Christians and Jews use state-sponsored terrorism to fulfill their goals. Extremist Muslims take matters into their own hands.

Most terrorism is political, not religious. The differences in religious culture may determine how those terrorist acts are perpetrated, but religion is only part of the picture.

Perhaps Muslims don't want to coexist with others because those others don't want to coexist with them. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Mr. Steyn.

Unknown said...

Oh really...

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/index.php?menuID=2&subID=46

Nadir said...

Yes. Absolutely.

http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/BringItOn/waronterror-index.asp

Unknown said...

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/britain.redcross/index.html

Unknown said...

Race fears spark St. George ban

LONDON, England (CNN) -- British prison officers who wore a St. George's Cross tie-pin have been ticked off by the jails watchdog over concerns about the symbol's racist connotations.

The pins showing the English flag -- which has often raised hackles due to its connection with the Crusades of the 11th, 12th and 13th centuries -- could be "misconstrued," Chief Inspector of Prisons Anne Owers said in a section on race in a report on a jail in the northern English city of Wakefield.

The banner of St. George, the red cross of a martyr on a white background, was adopted for the uniform of English soldiers during the military expeditions by European powers to recapture the Holy Land from Muslims, and later became the national flag of England.

A section on race relations in Owers' report said: "We were concerned to see a number of staff wearing a flag of St. George tie-pin.

"While we were told that these had been bought in support of a cancer charity there was clear scope for misinterpretation, and Prison Service Orders made clear that unauthorized badges and pins should not be worn."

As one of her formal recommendations Owers said: "Staff should not wear unauthorized badges or pins."

Chris Doyle, director of the Council for the Advancement of Arab-British Understanding, said Tuesday the red cross was an insensitive reminder of the Crusades.

"A lot of Muslims and Arabs view the Crusades as a bloody episode in our history," he told CNN. "They see those campaigns as Christendom launching a brutal holy war against Islam.

"Muslim or Arab prisoners could take umbrage if staff wore a red cross badge. It's also got associations with the far-right. Prison officers should be seen to be neutral."

Doyle added that it was now time for England to find a new flag and a patron saint who is "not associated with our bloody past and one we can all identify with."

Find this article at:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/britain.redcross/index.html

Paul Hue said...

Nadir: You are showing anti-democratic bias by equating Judeo-Christian extremism with Islamic extremism. You don't even seem to understand Christians, who do not consider themselves to be chosen by god; rather these they think that they have chosen god. And in recent times they have bombed the be-jesus out of other Christians, such as those in Germany and Italy. And no Christians are killing non-Christians in order to enforce Christianity.

I agree with your assessment that Judiasm is a form of racism, and that the religious Zionists are ignorant retards.

The terrorism in Latin America by Catholics is very different than the Islamic terrorists. The Catholics are committing terror irrespective of their catholicism, whereas the Islamic terrorists perform their murders in order to advance Islam.

Ann Coulter and Pat Robertson are not high government officials, they are private citizens, and even their comments are tame compared to government officials in the various Islamic nations.

I reject your view that the Isrealli govt -- and certainly not the US govt -- practices a form of terrorism comparable either to those of the private Islamic terrorists, or the Islamic governments.

As for equating the toleration of various faiths in the democratic (you say, "Christian") nations, with those of the Islamicist (in your words, "don't want to exist with others"), you are totally nuts. Go try to bring a bible to Saudia Arabia, and you will find out.

Paul Hue said...

If only the worst we freedom-lovers had to fear from the Muslims were some Muslim Ann Coulters and Pat Robertsons.

Nadir said...

We haven't even talked about the most dangerous religion of all in my opinion: Capitalism. The worship of money.

That has certainly caused more death and destruction than has Islam or any other religion.

Paul Hue said...

Nadir, you are NUTS! "Capitalism" is not the worship of money! Capitalism is merely a natural law that explains how free people with access to a monetary system exchange goods and services with each other.

And far from resulting in death and destruction, it has proved to be humanity's greatest tool for producing THE OPPOSITE. The examples are boundless, but I will merely offer India as an example. Prior to about 10 years ago, the governors there imposed a heavily socialized system, which is to day, severe constraints on capitalism. Now that these strictures have lifted, and capitalism flourishes there, do you think that poverty has soared and infrastructure and life expectancy has tumbled? Or has the opposite occured? What about China?