2006-06-30

Israel warns: free soldier or PM dies

I suppose you imperialist, pro-Zionist warmongers approve of the assassination of democratically elected officials.

Israel last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed.

The unprecedented warning was delivered to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a letter as Israel debated a deal offered by Hamas to free Corporal Gilad Shalit.

7 comments:

Paul Hue said...

I'm an anti-imperialist, and I believe that zionism is racism, which I oppose. I oppose the justification for Isreal's founding in Palistine.

However, I do not believe that getting elected to office erases criminal prosecution, or mandates normal relations with other democratic leaders; Hitler, after all, got freely elected.

Nadir said...

So you don't respect democracy? You're a neocon through and through.

You would force democracy on Iraq, but deny it to the Palestinians. This is the hyporcisy of America. This is why the world hates Americans.

All hell is about to break loose in the Middle East, and you approve and advocate this insanity.

Paul Hue said...

Nadir: Support for democracy certainly does not require absolution of crimes for all elected officials! I thought that you want Bush tried for various crimes. But he has been elected. Your position here perplexes me.

If I kill Hank Williams, Jr., then get elected to the school board, are you saying that I should not get prosecuted for murder?

You have not answered my question to you about the KKK registering as a political party, and returning to its practice of killing black people, and stating this purpose in its constitution. Should the election of their representatives preclude their prosecution?

Even democracies can produce policies opposed by advocates of demcracy. If the people of Palistine choose to elect people that I consider to be murderers, I can choose not to support their government. This does not make me an anti-democrat, and certainly does not constitute my "denying" them democracy.

Paul Hue said...

I'm not sure of the specifics of this matter, but in theory I an certainly imagine a situation in which I would support the assassination of a democratically elected official. The scenerio would involve that official's complicity in the killing or kidnapping of a citizen of another democracy that does not otherwise threaten the autonomy of that official's democracy.

Paul Hue said...

I suppose I am a "warmonger", because I do "advocate war"... in certain cercumstances. Don't you, Nadir? I believe that you support the anti-US militias in Iraq, as you consider them to be "freedom fighters."

Paul Hue said...

I would certainly have approved the assassination of Hitler! He was democratically elected.

Nadir said...

"I thought that you want Bush tried for various crimes. But he has been elected. Your position here perplexes me."

Bush was not elected. He was "selected" by the Supreme Court the first time, and stole his way into office more egregiously the second. I contend that the election of 2000 was a coup, and the faulty election of 2004 as a continuation of an illegitimate regime, not a democratically elected one.

Israel's actions against Hamas should not be allowed by the international community. Most sensible people agree here.

Israel's aggressions against the Palestinian people are racist, totalitarian, and based in undemocratic principles. Interesting that you would bring Hitler into the analysis! Israel's actions are just as reprehensible as Adolf's.

KKK sympathizers and similar ilk have held office in the US for many years. No one prosecuted people like Strom Thurmond or George Wallace or Bull Connor. The United States historically supports racism and anti-democratic pratices at home and abroad.

"I'm not sure of the specifics of this matter, but in theory I an certainly imagine a situation in which I would support the assassination of a democratically elected official. The scenerio would involve that official's complicity in the killing or kidnapping of a citizen of another democracy that does not otherwise threaten the autonomy of that official's democracy."

So you are advocating the assassination of George W. Bush?

I am not a "warmonger". I am a "peacenik". I advocate self-defense. I don't "support" the insurgency, but I recognize their right to defend their formerly sovereign nation from outside aggressors. I would do the same in my own home if it were invaded.