“I came to the conclusion that the hostile comments about Israel on these liberal blogs are not coming from true liberals. Most of the anti-Semitism comes from racism and most of the racism I have experienced has come from the far right, not the left.
“So my conclusion is that the bloggers who violently hate Israel and see it in black and white terms are not really liberals. They may even be anti-Semites, but they are not representative of the liberal community that was so active in achieving racial and ethnic equality. It is a contradiction for a true liberal to be an anti-Semite.
Furthermore, I would not put it past the right wing to flood the liberal blogs with hateful criticisms of Israel to advance a perception that liberals are anti-Israel or anti-Semitic. And I see Karl Rove’s fingerprints all over this.”
Now I've heard everything. What an imbicile.
2006-07-24
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This Isreal situation causes a problem for the leftists. Many Jewish leftists are also Isreali supporters; this issue divides them. Among the goy lefties, I think they're about 100% anti Isreal. I'm not sure what the fraction is among Chosen Lefties, but I suspect that a majority jump ship on this point. They oppose school vouchers and low taxes, support mimimum wage laws and believe that blacks still suffer mightily in 2006 from the oppressive hand of whitey, but when it comes to Isreal, they mysteriously support it.
One thing where I side with Nadir: Criticism of Isreal -- no matter how irrational -- does not neccessarily constitute anti-semitism. I realize that many of the retarded muslims (maybe all of them?) are jew-haters (the usual meaning of the word "anti-semite"). But people like Nadir and Tom are surely not jew-haters.
They are racist in a certain way, of course, in that they believe white people are supreme creatures whose actions are ultimately responsible the failures and transgressions of all non-white peoples, yet they are supreme in that their own failures and transgressions fall at their own feet (rather than at the feat of those who wronged them in the past).
It's sort of a love-hate view they have towards whites; they blame them for everything bad (hate), but respect only them enough to hold accountable for their own actions (love).
These lefties, though, don't sub-divide whites into catagories like "jew" and then heap special hatred on them. The Jews who founded and run Isreal are just another pack of whites doing what Nadir and Tom think that groups of whites (and only groups of whites!) always do, which is subjugate and conquer everybody else.
I do find it satisfying, though, that people like Tom and Nadir get automatically called "anti-semite" for their criticisms of Isreal by zionists, when Tom and Nadir do this themselves to people who hold non-whites responsible for their own transgressions and failures (racists or sell-outs, depending on how Tom and Nadir racially catagorize the critic).
I disagree Paul. I would argue that it is anti-semitism. Anti-semitism by proxy so to speak. Anti-semitism carried out vicariously through people like Nadir.
Nadir may not himself be anti-semitic, but by drawing moral equivalence between a free, liberal, tolerant, open society like that of Israel's - the kind of society one would think he would defend to the last breath - with a backwards, 4th century, martyrdom-loving death cult that is Hizbollah, or Hamas, he's doing their anti-semitic work for them.
It makes no sense, but there it is.
It's sick.
I still don't think that Nadir and Tom are any more anti-Jew than they are merely anti-honkey. Your comparassion has two problems:
1. Islam began in the 7th century (600s).
2. Nadir and Tom don't equate Isreal with Hezbollah, they equiate Isreal and the US with the Nazis, and place the Hezbos, Hamasers, and Talibs on a higher plane, that of "freedom fighters" resisting a vast conspiracy of raping, racist murderers who have produced merely the 150th happiest place in the world (though no non-whites ever immigrate away, and non-whites pour in daily by the thousands), destroying its resources and effectively enslaving its people.
Dennis Prager at this very moment is interviewing Sheldon Drobny, the author of this piece. He tells Prager that his comment that anti-Semitism is a Rovian plot was meant as more or less a tongue-in-cheek joke.
It's been an interesting interview so far.
It's been a very spirited discussion and I'm finding myself rather impressed with his open-mindedness. He is much more centrist than this piece would have let on.
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