2006-07-24

Be Careful How You Use The "N" Word

On 7-12-06 Nadir said...

Hezbollah is not Hamas, though they may be allies. The Zionist Nazis in control of the Israeli government have been looking for an excuse to continue their war against Lebanon where they have frequently fired missiles and led smaller scale attacks since withdrawing forces 20 years ago.

The apocalypse is upon us.

Nazis, huh? Hmmm, okay. What exactly would you call this I wonder? The f*cking Boy Scouts?

Echoes of Nazism in Tyre

Hundreds of Hizballah propaganda photographs are emanating from the city of Tyre, Lebanon: Tyre.

But here’s what was happening in Tyre last August, in a photo from TIME Magazine’s Inside Hizballah slideshow.



Maybe it's just me, Nadir, but you might want to consider being a little more careful and selective about dropping the "N' word from now on.

7 comments:

Paul Hue said...

Nadir stamps labels like "Nazi" on people that he opposes, but he never justifies these claims. In this comment he at least makes a very lame attempt, justify calling Isrealis " Nazis" based on firing some missles and small military excursions into Lebanon... without acknowledging that these military attacks by Isreal are counter-attacks against a militia officially chartered to eradicating Isreal. I assume that Nadir knows the history of WWII, so I can't understand how he could equate Isreal's counter-attacks against the Hezbollah aggressors with Naziism. Especially considering that Hezbollah is devoted to not only invading and conquering Isreal, but in creating a region-wide totalitarian empire based on a mythical dream of a distant past.

The Nazis, like the Hezbollahs, also had lots of international support for appeasement! As with the Nazis -- and unlike with the Isrealis -- if Hezbollahs enemies disarmed, the Hezbos would march on in, destroy their state, and erect a totalitarian despotism in its stead. Conversely, if Isreal's ememies disarmed, they would face zero invasion from Isreal. You can hardly be any less Nazistic than that.

Those who would call Hezbollah nazies (or "hezhanazis") can justify their claim, certainly more so than the democratic, non-expansionist Isrealis.

Paul Hue said...

Side note: Tyre is a very special city. It was a great navel capital of the Phenician empire, which either allied with, or got conquired by, the Persians during the days of Alexander the Great. After the Persians failed several times to conquer Europe (most famously at Marathon), Alexander became the first European to reverse that trend, by counter-attacking the previous aggressors. One of his most spectacular and difficult victories was at Tyre, which at the time had a fortress located about a mile off its beach. Alexander had his army build a sand barge from the beach out to the fortress, which took over a year.

How far the Pheonicians have fallen, from the apex of civilization to the grip of backwards religious superstition. A much sadder defeat than Alexander's conquest.

Nadir said...

I stamp the label Nazi on fascists who believe they are a master race.

The photo you show here is merely propaganda. And what recourse do they have when faced with an enemy with superior military capabilities but to train their people to defend the nation?

The same happened with settlers in the Western US who taught their women and children to defend their settlements against indigenous people who were merely fighting for their survival. The same thing happened in Cuba when Castro, faced with an aggressive imperial nation to the north, has armed the people of the island. This is the primary deterent that has prevented and invasion of that nation.

When facing and enemy that will murder and rape your women and children, you should definitely train them to fight back. There is NOTHING radical about that.

Paul Hue said...

I agree with Nadir about Judaism's view of a "chosen people", although this does not imply that this special group is "master" over anybody, unlike the Nazis. The Hisballah group doesn't believe in a master "race", but does believe in a master religion, which they want to impose on everbody.

The photo being "merely propaganda" does not invalidate its accuracy. What kind of a counter-argument is that, Nadir? An illogical one.

"What recourse do they have when faced with an enemy with superior military capabilities"? This one: stop attacking Isreal. Then there will be no Isreali force to defend against. Isreal does not want to conquer Gaza or Lebanon, except to extinguish residents there who are devoted to extinguishing Isreal.

We now have charges of Isreali troops raping muslim women? Do you have any substantiation for this charge? (I thought that you didn't proffer views on rape unless you are a primary witness.)

Anonymous said...

"When facing and enemy that will murder and RAPE your women and children"

What the hell are you talking about?

Paul Hue said...

Six: I'm very interested how Nadir will support this claim that Isreali troops are raping women and children (especially given Nadir's claim that he forms no opinions on rape allegations unless he's a primary witness).

Nadir said...

Okay. I concede the point. Israel isn't known to be guilty of murder and rape of women an children.

Just bombing them without regard to their civilian status.

I stand corrected.