Okay. I was out of town last week, and was busy preparing to leave the week before. So here is the return of this weekly report.
"There is an uproar throughout the city of Jacksonville today after Jacksonville firefighters found nooses on their equipment Friday morning."
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This is the best that you can come up with? What a great country that my black daughters have been born into. This smattering of cases does not seem to me to exceed the low background noise of idiots committing ugly and wierd crimes. I am confident that this act will get more press and police action than for black firefighters who get threatened by other blacks, or black firefighters who get threatened by anybody.
If my daughters want to fire fighters, I remain certain that their success will be determined 99.9999% by non-racial factors. No wonder tens of thousands of blacks move here every year from around the world, and effectively none ever leave.
This includes Jamaicians, Nadir. Most blacks born in Jamacia move to the US, and live out their lives there. They have a much greater chance of becomeing a fire fighter in the US than in Jamacia, and of being a crime victim in the US than in Jamacia.
I remain most curious to learn of the aweful race crimes that you have faced since moving to honkey Westland.
Meanwhile, republicans are poised to elect two black governers and two black us senators. And my eldest balck daughter languishes not due to getting knocked-back by racist whites, but by her failure to move forward. To whatever extent "racism" continues to exist, if it ended tomarrow, she would remain stagnated.
Nadir: Do you have any figures for the following:
1) 1950: The liklihood of a black american experiancing violence, property crime, or denial of civil liberty committed by a white person as an act of racism.
2) 1950: The liklihood of a black american experiancing violence, property crime, or denial of civil liberty committed by a black person, for any reason.
3) 2005: The liklihood of a black american experiancing violence, property crime, or denial of civil liberty committed by a white person as an act of racism.
4) 2005: The liklihood of a black american experiancing violence, property crime, or denial of civil liberty committed by a black person, for any reason.
You use insulting and racist comments every time I see you. What's your point? Subtle racism, confederate flags and Nazi swastikas are enough to create an uncomfortable, if not completely hostile environment.
The fact that racism isn't as violent as it used to be doesn't mean that it doesn't exist and that people like you aren't the perpetrators of such acts - black daughters or not. Many a prominent racist has sired black offspring.
I've never been to North Dakota, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I didn't see Dick Cheney shoot that dude in the face, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
And again, I contend that blacks have always and always will overcome racism, no matter how violent it is. We survived when lynching was epidemic, and we will survive if affirmative action is struck down.
My position has never been that racism was an obstacle that could not be overcome. It has always been that the obstacle is there. Recognize it, and find a way around it.
You're the one who says it isn't a signifcant obstacle. I say it is, but it isn't going to stop me.
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You use insulting and racist comments every time I see you. What's your point?
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If you count me as a racist, then you have invalidated your racist meter completely, and shown yourself to be a racist, as you apply this tag to me only because of the racial tag that you apply to me. I ask for examples of "aweful race crimes that you have faced since moving to honkey Westland", and the best you can produce is the comments of the guy who shuttles you between home and airport, teaches black kids with you, got arrested for *burning* the confederate flag, etc., and the very occassional spotting of confederate flags (surely by people who don't even know their meaning)? You poor, oppressed man. I am sure that Nat Turner is weeping for these "aweful race crimes" that you have experianced.
Please specify the crimes that I and the confederate flag wavers have voilated, or at least the proposed laws that you would erect to include our actions.
And no, my siring black children does not disqualify me as a rasist. My views and actions do. Nor does your self-identification as "black" or "African-American" disqualify you a racist.
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We survived when lynching was epidemic,
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I wasn't aware that you were alive in the 1920s. Or do you have a time machine? Which ever mechanism you have used to exist as a black person in the 1920s US, what did you do to overcome lynching? Were you one of the black folks who insisted that nobody "insult" the "culture" comprising people who would have responded to cartoons of ignorant white racists by staging more lynchings? Or were you one of those blacks who "made things worse" by "insulting" the Jim Crowers?
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You use insulting and racist comments every time I see you.
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Are you including here my "insulting" comments about your father being gay? Do my "racist" comments only count because you lable me "white"? Do they count since I make identical comments about whites? Please provide your definition of "racism" by which I qualify, and a citation for it.
Here's the definitions from dictionary.com:
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
Please explain how I qualify for either definition. You qualify at least for the second definition, since you designate as "racist" comments by people according to your "racial" assignment of the person. You also seem to me only to care about and respect your ancestors who you label as "black", and when it comes to certain crimes (slavery, conquest, subjugation) you recognize and oppose only those committed by people whom you lable as "white".
"Oh, it's just horrible being a black person in Westland. The guy who shuttles me and my wife to the airport is such a European-American *racist*. He uses words like cracker and jigaboo... even to his African-American daughters and live-in girlfriend. Sometimes even in the meetings of the organization that we run to educate black students in hard academic subjects. Every week or so I even spot a confederate flag! Once it happened while that racist guy was racing to get me home from the airport so he could pick up his African-American daughter from $1,000/year piano lessons. That racist European-American even has a few photos of confederate flags in his *home*! He's even in the photo next to the flag! Sure, he's burning it in the process of being arrested while urging Georgia voters of all 'races' to remove confederate statues, and rename schools for slave rebels. But there it is, in plain view from his library, with its admirable collection of books about and by African-Americans. He's just like those white slave owners 150 years ago who raped African American women, whipped black men for various arbitrary reasons, and required blacks to remain seperate and inferior. Whatever you do, don't move to Westland! Sure, we can overcome these awful race crimes, but it's just awful. One day we might even move!"
Nadir: Since my actions count as "race crimes", I think you should add them to this blog's running "Weekly 'Rare' Racist Hate Crime Story." Also remember to include every spotting of a confederate flag.
==========Nadir
You're the one who says it isn't a signifcant obstacle. I say it is, but it isn't going to stop me.
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I agree with your articulation of our dispute, though I would add that I do think there are areas where the racism appears to be significant, such as hollywood executive suites and on national political tickets (statistically there should be two black senators, for example).
But you certainly believe that the remaining racism is "stopping" a good portion of black folks, since you believe that this racism explains discrepancies in such things as average income and SAT scores.
==========Nadir
I've never been to North Dakota, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. I didn't see Dick Cheney shoot that dude in the face, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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Sounds to me that you don't even have any personal experiances of race crimes committed on you in Westland: they're as distant to you as North Dakota and Dick Cheney hunting trips. OK, then. Now we're back to you showing with newspaper clippings that blacks in the US regularly face race crimes, though no blacks that you know in white Westland have experianced any more than their buddy Paul in his home saying "honkey" and "negro" in front of his black (and white) guests (treating them equally!) at black-majority parties, plus occassional spottings of confederate flags.
That's some case for "racism" that you're amassing. It shows that all those black Africans immigrating over here are making a big mistake (though oddly their average levels of incomes and education exceeds that of whites; apparently white racism applies only to native blacks, and not to Asians or African-born blacks).
Nadir: Notice in this story that you posteda about the firefighters that the race crime (I believe it is a crime to threaten people with death if you have taken steps to enact the crime, such as leaving a noose) has caused an "uproar throughout the city." I am certain that such a crime (or even worse) would not have caused an uproar 30 years ago in Jacksonville... or even made the paper... or been seriously prosecuted by the police.
Paul, I didn't call you a racist.
By the way, thanks for picking me and my wife up at the airport.
Nadir: If you ask me how I know that racism was a significant factor impeding black people in many basic advances in life, I could offer dozens of personal examples of actual race crimes:
1. The first black family moved in when I was about 8. My friends and I went and vandalized their house with a barrage of rocks.
2. My friends (former friends, in response to our family welcoming the new family) vandalized our house with rocks, eggs, and paint on a regular basis.
3. Our family received death threats via phone, mail, and left messages, all proclaiming phrases like "nigger lover."
4. My brother and I were beaten many times, on each occassion called "nigger lovers."
5. The first ten or so black families can tell stories about vanalism and messages containing the word "nigger." As I recall from meetings with these adults and my parents, our family received more vandalism and threats. The phone threats where nearly every day, and we kids essentially could not play outside. At school we recieved the "silent treatment."
6. These stories were very common for blacks moving into white nieghborhoods then, throughout the country.
7. When my elementary school transformed into a black school (after the new black kids helped me beat my white tormentors, and then the white kids all left), the bordering white catholic school during recess engaged us in several race riots, wherein they white kids called us "niggers" (and me "nigger lover"). As the only white member of the black squad (and small for my age), I got targetted by the white kids, and got
8. My junior high school was about 50/50 when I go there, with all the black kids coming from my neighborhood. Several race riots broke out, involving the N word from the white kids. I participated on the black side in each case, and got targetted as usual with the usual apsersion.
This kind of racism then was not limitted to black people trying to move on up into nicer neighborhoods. Nothing anywhere close to this exists today.
Lynching still occurs guys. Listen to my audioblawg and you can see that I am a very open guy about race.
But lynching still occurs, and it can be racial and ideological, but you can't rule out race just because you don't want to admit it.
Watch it unfold in NH, the "Live Free or Die" state:
http://christopher-king.blogspot.com/2006/03/why-progressive-black-man-fears-new.html
and watch other NAACPs wonder WTF???
http://www.triadblogs.com/jmcclough/1768/#c618
No Justice, No Peace.
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