2006-10-08

Chavez denies being anti-US

Since becoming president he has followed a policy of democratic socialism, Latin American integration and anti-imperialism.

His reforms have created much controversy in Venezuela and abroad. Most Venezuelans are split between those who say he has empowered the poor and stimulated economic growth, and those who say he is autocratic and has badly managed the economy.

Some foreign governments view Chavez as a threat to world oil prices and regional stability, while others welcome his bilateral trade and reciprocal aid agreements.

7 comments:

Paul Hue said...

No matter how much US officials oppose socialism, I insist that they must respect and support the results of authentic democratic elections, with the following proviso: if the elections endorse violent opposition to other democratic nations. My research into this topic indicates that the Venezuela's elections have not violated this proviso. If US officials can work with and support tyrants like the Saudi Arabians, surely they can work with Cuban and Venezuelan and Iranian officials.

Paul Hue said...

If anti-sociaist, pro-democracy people -- such as the Bushies -- support socialist results that manifest from democratic elections in nations such as Venezuela, the predictable ruinous results will materialize, and demonstrate to these voters the folly of socialism. But if US officials behave hostilly towards these socialist election results, it will give "the people" and the socialist officials something to blame other than socialism for the economic disaster.

Paul Hue said...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4801521.stm

Here's a massive protest against Chavez held a day or so ago. Any Bush anti-Chavez comments of motions will probably backfire, and influence people to vote against their own economic interests (just as sensible, pro-Detroit subburban honkies expressing derision against Detroit mayor Kwame influenced some vacuous Detroit voters to screw themselves just to upset their phantom enemies).

The report doesn't make plain the views of these contras, other than they oppose Chavez. Do they want lower, flatter taxes? Or do they want even more govt program fantasies?

Nadir said...

So you DO NOT advocate the overthrow of Hugo Chavez? This is a striking change of stance for you since you were (and still are, I presume) highly in favor of the overthrow of tyrant Saddam Hussein.

Can you explain the reason for your different take?

Paul Hue said...

No suppporter of Bush's Iraq invasion justifies his support for the reasons that you charge here. I can only articulate our reasons 10,000 times in this space; could yet another attempt possibly result you you comprehending these reasons? I can't resist attempt 10,001, which will this time manifest as the following fantasy list of factors which would render Venezuela analogous to Iraq in 2002:

1. Chavez abolishis democracy and proclaims himself ruler for life.
2. Chavez executes various groups of civillians within his nation.
3. A religious movement sweeps South America, and its adherents begin attacking US military and civillian personel in South America.
4. Chavez invades Colombia and makes it a state within Venezuela. The US organizes a military force under the UN to invade Colombia and oust Chavez's army. The US succeeds, and creates and agreement with Chavez to cease-fire so long as Chavez observes several requirements.
5. For 10 years Chavez voilates those requirements. Meanwhile members of the South American anti-US religion who commit terrorist acts against US civilian and military personel in South America get refuge in Venezuala.
6. Chavez starts paying cash to the families of members of that religion who conduct suicide missions against civillian targets in the US-ally nation of the Dominican Republic.
7. Members of that religion from Bolivia hijack some US planes and fly them into US sky scrapers.
8. Bush now insists on re-opening the war that had been halted by the cease-fire that Chavez had violated every day for ten years, with the hopes of establishing in Venezuela s democracy, with the resulting prosperity demonstrating to South Americans that civillization rather than a repressive ancient religion creates just that: prosperity.

Nadir said...

2. Chavez executes various groups of civillians within his nation.

Like they did in the US during COINTELPRO?

3. A religious movement sweeps South America, and its adherents begin attacking US military and civillian personel in South America.

You mean Catholicism?

6. Chavez starts paying cash to the families of members of that religion who conduct suicide missions against civillian targets in the US-ally nation of the Dominican Republic.

You mean like John Negroponte did (does)?

7. Members of that religion from Bolivia hijack some US planes and fly them into US sky scrapers.

You mean like like Luis Posada Carriles did to the Cuban airliner? But he's been given refuge in theh US. What are you saying, Paul??

8. Bush now insists on re-opening the war that had been halted by the cease-fire that Chavez had violated every day for ten years, with the hopes of establishing in Venezuela s democracy, with the resulting prosperity demonstrating to South Americans that civillization rather than a repressive ancient religion creates just that: prosperity.

Or he SAYS that's the reason, but really he was after Venezuela's oil all along. And this created an easier path for the cocaine to move out of Columbia.

So you think Bush really IS planning to invade Venezuela!!! You're freaking me out, Paul...

Paul Hue said...

Nadir: What is going on with all the petro in Iraq'a Kurdistan? Is Bush stealing it?