2006-10-03

GOP Unfit to Govern? Where Have Right-Wingers Been?

Mark Foley resigns in disgraceLet’s see… The federal deficit is at a record high (or low depending on which way you’re looking at it). Our military is waging an illegal war, congress just legalized torture, FEMA made New Orleans more of a disaster than Hurricane Katrina did, the president spies on US citizens without securing warrants…

But it takes the exposure of a GOP representative’s naughty instant messages to a high school boy (and the Republican cover-up) for conservative pundits like Joseph Farah at WorldNetDaily to face the facts that have been in plain sight for at least the last five years.

6 comments:

Paul Hue said...

"The federal deficit is at a record high": I am disgusted with the Repos for this. They have controlled congress and senate and are behaving worse than the demos ever did.

"Our military is waging an illegal war": I disagree with this. Iraq's Hussein govt paid suicide bombers infiltrating Isreal, and violated the 1992 cease-fire agreement every day. I think that Bush got as much legal coverage for invading Iraq as Lincoln did for invading confederate states.

"Congress just legalized torture": I agree with you here.

"FEMA made New Orleans more of a disaster than Hurricane Katrina did": If FEMA had rushed in competently (for the first time ever!), NO would still have been flooded.

"The president spies on US citizens without securing warrants": Just like all presidents have during war time. I do think that congressional oversite should check this activity.

This essay is nuts, because disaffected Repos will never support most of the above comments. If we did, we'd be liberals. We are outraged by the deficit, laws against internet gambling, things like that, and some are even outraged that Bush invaded Iraq (though not because it was illegal, I don't reckon).

Do I think that the Repos are unfit? I suppose; I'm geared up to vote straight Libertarian. But I think the demos are even worse. Even this gay paige scandal: how long did some demos know, and sit on it before they released the info at the best political time?

Paul Hue said...

An observation: The male former pages interviewed for this story seem to all be gay! Also, the pages participating in the text pages with this guy seemed to be happy participants (and thus gay). Not sure what this means.

The only reason I relished Clinton getting skewered by the Lewinski affair is that he championed successfully the same poor law that got him in trouble: in sex accusation cases (but in no others), "previous conduct" qualifies as evidence. You see, prior to this very bad law, if Nadir's father accused me of stealing $20 from him, my previous acts of theivery could not enter into evidence as they in no way indicate guilt on the particular charge.

However, thanks to Clinton's Ms. Magazine law, if Nadir's dad accuses me of fondling him, the prosecuter or civil damages plantiff's attorney can enter into evidence other people who make the same case against me, establishing a "pattern of conduct." Clinton had a chick accusing him of rape who -- though she couldn't get a prosecuter to charge him -- sued him instead. Her attorney used Clintn's terrible law against him, forcing Lewinski to testify against her will under oath.

Paul Hue said...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3311189,00.html

Here's Iran's No. 1 Mullah expounding on masterbation. Pope's used to do such things, and may still. But they control nothing anymore, and their former charges now regard them as little more that curiosities who wear funny costumes. And they don't advocate for war any more; to the contrary, they oppose it in all cases. Meanwhile, muslim clerics dictate the national policies of many nations, and urge murder, assassination, and war.

Of course some protestant USA preachers urge murder, assassination, and war. But they can get their way only by convincing voters to elect leaders who agree. And they don't advocate violence in order to impose christianity.

I understand why Nadir and Tom hate the USA religious right; I just don't understand why they don't hate the Islamic jihadis 10,000 times more.

Paul Hue said...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15145514/site/newsweek/page/2/

Just how gay is the male pagery? This Newsweek recollection of a page from the 1980s includes a reference to a "yellow flower" the kid wore in his lapel button hole.

Nadir said...

Only because the GOP is so homophobic has this issue turned into a "gay" thing. It's really about a supposedly responsible adult knowing what is appropriate conversation between him and teenagers.

The essay is nuts because you only agree with part of the claims?

The Secretary General of the United Nations said the invasion of Iraq violated the UN charter and international law.

FEMA's failed response in the aftermath of Katrina has made that disaster worse than it would have been if they had responded even adequately.

Just because Lincoln and Roosevelt used totalitarian measures doesn't make it right. And Bush has declared a war without end because the enemy is a tactic, not a nation or even a racist or an ideology.

How is it that you don't agree with these statements? I understand you are in denial. It's okay.

The point is this question: why is it a gay sex scandal that makes right-wingers suddenly become fed up? You must admit, the Republicans have been performing badly for some time now.

Why was a gay sex scandal "the last straw"?

Paul Hue said...

========Nadir
The Secretary General of the United Nations said the invasion of Iraq violated the UN charter and international law.
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That doesn't sell me, Kofi Annon's decree on this matter. If he agreed with Bush, would that change your mind? If the invasion worked the way that I thought it would, with all of Iraq operating like its Kurdish area, I doubt that you would care about Annon's assessment either.

=============Nadir=========
FEMA's failed response in the aftermath of Katrina has made that disaster worse than it would have been if they had responded even adequately.
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I agree. But I think it does bear recognizing that Bush's response was merely the same old FEMA response, not anything any worse that Clinton's FEMA (or Bush's pre-Katrina FEMA). Would Clinton have done anything special? I don't know. But it was a very poor showing, I agree, and we repo voters were shocked to learn not that local and state demos were so inept, but that our repo feds were as well.

=========Nadir========
Just because Lincoln and Roosevelt used totalitarian measures doesn't make it right.
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I agree, but thus your demands and requirements here should make plain that you are demanding and requiring something new, that you are proposing new standards. I support many of these new standards of yours.


==========Nadir====
And Bush has declared a war without end because the enemy is a tactic, not a nation or even a racist or an ideology.
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I'm starting to agree with you here. How do we measure success or victory for a "War on Terror"? I agree it's a poor choice, but I do understand the problems that the word smiths faced here.