Prosecutors say they won't seek hate-crime charges against two white teens accused of brutally beating and sodomizing a 16-year-old Hispanic boy, who was clinging to life after being left for dead.The two attacked the boy after he tried to kiss a 12-year-old girl at an unsupervised house party Saturday night in suburban Spring, authorities said.
The attackers, both of whom have juvenile criminal records, apparently were offended at the age difference between the victim and the girl, who is also Hispanic, and shouted racial slurs at him during the 10- to 15-minute attack, investigators said.
Authorities said the two dragged the boy from the party and into the yard, where they sodomized him with a plastic pipe from a patio table umbrella.
If you're offended by the age difference, you don't shout racial slurs. You shout "you're too old to be with that girl" or "you dirty MF". You also don't sodomize a kid because he is too old. The prosecutors are in error here.
And what's up with all this latent homosexuality? Sodomizing another dude? That's some straight Brokeback $h!t.
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Nadir: This is a pretty mixed bag, as I see it. The two culprits have some sickness, as indicated by the sodomy. The victim also has some sickness, as indicated by his attempt (if true) to kiss a 12 year old. As far as this qualifying as a race crime, I don't think so; it certainly isn't unambiguous. I would agree... if the girl was a 15 year old white girl, and the reason the culprits attacked the victim was that he was non-white. But they attacked him because of the age difference, and the girl they were protecting was "hispanic" (I assume we're talking about mestizos here). Just because you swear out aspersions based on your adversary's physical charactoristics (you old bastard, you fat bastard, you preppie bastart, you black bastard, you female bastard, you gay bastard, etc.) doesn't neccessarily indicate a disdain for people with whatever adjective you're using.
I hope, Nadir, you can come up with a better example than this!
I think you're ignoring an underlying pathology here, but I'm not surprised. It involves speculation, but would those kids have attacked a white guy who tried to kiss the 12 year-old girl? Would the attack have taken on the nature that it did if this person were not somehow perceived as different or lesser?
Since when do you sodomize someone to protect the honor of a woman? There are other forces at work here, and I speculate that it is possible that the nature of the attack took on a more violent hue because of racial factors.
Additionally, I believe that it is the prosecutors who are the perpetrators of the race crime here as much as the attackers. What would the difference be if two blacks had sodomized a white guy for kissing a black girl? Those black attackers would probably never see daylight again.
Nadir: This example that you cite requires speculation to make it a crime of race-motivated terrorism. There are just too many complicating factors. If the girl was a 15-year-old white girl, I would agree. Shall we speculate what would happen to a 15-year-old white boy in East LA who at a party tries to kiss a 12-year-old mestizo girl? Shall we speculate as to the likelihood that the resulting beat-down would include anti-white slurs?
When you do find an unambiguous, non-speculative instance of white terrorism against mestizos, you will still be a long way from convincing me that the US is a horrible place for mestizos. With half a million or so immigrating to the US annually, I assume that racial terrorism is a rare occurance for them, and that economic and social advancement represent their normal experiance.
I have conceded that racism is more rare than it used to be. I still believe there is evidence to suggest in this case that the crime was at least partially motivated by racism. The case of your white boy in East LA would be as well.
Nadir: I don't think that my East LA scenario would qualify as racist, despite the employment of racial epithets, the use of such which does not automatically indicate racist motivations.
When non-racists get made at a person, they employ a variety of insults, whatever they know might pschologically harm their target. Race, height, school grades, hair style, color of their living room walls, etc. Sometimes in arguing me, Nadir, you derisively call my living room wall "pink". Yet this does not neccessarily mean that you are a colorist, that you deny rights to people based on their wall colors. You simply want to harm me, and you know that I tried to make a purple wall, and you think I mis-judged and got a pink wall. Your wife has called my hairsyle "rooster" or "chicken", though I'm confident that she doesn't want to deny rights to people based on hair style.
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